The Bedroom Tax (also known as Spare Room Subsidy) is a change to Housing Benefit Entitlement that restricts housing benefits for tenants of working age (16-61) living in a housing association or council property that is deemed to have one or more spare bedrooms. Tenants with one spare bedroom lose 14% of entitled housing benefit and those with two or more spare bedrooms lose 25% of entitlement. Possible exemptions exist for tenants receiving a state pension, rent a shared ownership property, have a severely disabled child who requires their own room, have a foster child, or have a child how is on duty in the armed forces.
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@9PHWRXW10mos10MO
If they are on benefits, there may be a case for doing this. But this should not require them to relocate to new areas if it is imposed - they are still entitled (and we would collectively benefit) to stay within their own communities and networks
@9PG7QMX10mos10MO
This should not be a situation which is allowed to happen as we have a housing crisis, it also should not be an option to refuse to move to an available smaller property, it should be mandatory at the earliest opportunity
yes with exceptions to disabled family members and tenants that have been in the same property for x amount of years.
@9NYN74Z 11mos11MO
No, but help should be provided for the tenant to move somewhere suitable so that this does not happen.
@B4HMK5K3wks3W
The government should automatically remove people from houses where there are more bedrooms than they require.
@9ZSRHLC5mos5MO
If a council property is underoccupied the tenants should be required to move to a smaller property. If one is unavailable it is the governments responsibility therefore they should not have to pay extra.
@9SYD6YVLiberal Democrat8mos8MO
Only if the house is significantly smaller than it needs to be for a family. if bedrooms are tiny and cannot accommodate the household and there is no other option to solve the situation then benefits may be lent out
@9QWT87J10mos10MO
No, but housing should on a ‘need’ basis and re-assessed yearly so people can move to their ‘need’ level.
@9QW6FF8Liberal Democrat10mos10MO
No/Maybe - The housing association should be fined for not finding or acquiring suitable accommodation. Fine the tenant only if tenant refuses to downsize given a suitable offer.
@9QLSK8310mos10MO
Yes but only if they refuse to move to a smaller property with the exception being they can stay in that home if they have been there for ten years or more
@9QJWJ6910mos10MO
Yes, but only with certain exceptions, such as disabled family members or they refuse to move to an available smaller property etc.
@9Q72V5Y10mos10MO
We should have good quality housing and if the tenant refuses a social house they should go to the back of the queue. If a house is clearly too big then this should be reviewed
@9Q636GC10mos10MO
There should be a contract that states when they no longer need all the bedrooms they are given something smaller, to meet the current need. Social housing should not be seen as a right to reside for life
@Jollyjuggler 10mos10MO
Yes. However length of time at a property should be a factor. Asking someone to leave the family home now the children have grown might be a little unkind. Based on demand
@9PQ7ZP610mos10MO
Yes, but only if there is a suitable smaller alternative in an area close enough to their place of work, etc.
@9PNCRJD 10mos10MO
Yes but with exception for those with disabled family members or if they refuse to move to an available smaller property
@9PLTNT410mos10MO
Only if there is no valid reason to have the additional space. Being able to host visiting family members or have the option of separate sleeping arrangements if you are a couple living in a multi-bedroom property should be a right. Forcing couples to have to sleep in the same room especially due to ill health is not good.
@9PC9RP811mos11MO
Yes only if the relevant house is in the vicinity that they already live and not to a different area
@9P4GG7F11mos11MO
No but social housing, like the benefits systems needs an overhaul - currently people seem to have more children to get bigger properties and claim more benefits - this is unfair to the children, those of us that work to support ourselves and the people who genuinely need support (disabled and elderly people) and would look after the properties they move into.
@9NVT7BD11mos11MO
Yes because private renting is more expensive but certain disabilities should be excepted if more room is required for equipment or live in carers
@9NVB6ST11mos11MO
It should depend on each individuals situation, as to the amount of benefits that they are allocated.
@9NT5SP611mos11MO
No, but priority should be given to those who need a bigger property and incentives should be given to help them move.
@9NQLLMB11mos11MO
Yes but only if it’s a newer house fit them. If it’s been their family home for 20 plus years it would be hard mentally do it should be on an individual circumstances.
@9NDTWFKIndependent11mos11MO
It would depend on circumstances. If a person feels that it is their home they are more likely to care for that home so moving out should be incentivised not punished
@9N98CPVLiberal Democrat11mos11MO
Not if they have lived there since before the bedroom rules came in as I do not believe they should be forced to leave their home.
@9N7DJSF11mos11MO
No, first the housing association should be investigated as to if there is something suspicious going on.
@9MYXHM9Count Binface11mos11MO
No, in theory this is supposed to target those wealthy people with excess space but often takes regular income residents out of their homes to make profit for corporations or offer the building to someone who has been here 5 minutes
@9MYQL9Y11mos11MO
Should depend on cost not rooms as some places with more bedrooms may be cheaper than places with less rooms
@9MWVX59Liberal Democrat11mos11MO
Yes, but make exceptions for families with disabled members, carers or other situations which may affect space needed.
@9MRW8DG11mos11MO
People who have lived in the same property prior to the year 2000 should be exempt from paying bedroom tax.
@9MHGGV712mos12MO
Yes unless there is a medical reason that will impact the wellbeing such as those with dementia and other mental illness.
@9MDPFRR12mos12MO
No, because the extra room may be used for utility and storage purposes, especially for those working at home
@9LZXG5512mos12MO
No if they lose a family member they should be able to stay in their home. New tenants should be qualified to get a suitable residence.
@9LMW7N41yr1Y
This is something that depends on individual circumstances; in some cases there are not available properties for people to move to. I do not support needlessly penalising individuals and it may be harmful to relocate people without just cause if they have lived in an area for a long time. However, if available properties exist people should be given the option to move into housing more suited to their circumstances.
The benefits system needs to be reformed entirely so that is income+wealth based and not based on an individual’s situation.
Hard to see a simple answer to this one that wouldn’t either harshly penalise edge cases (eg where a household member has died) or give too much leeway to pisstakers. Would have to be case-by-case.
@9FVKSV62yrs2Y
Only if they're not using the rooms, at all. Some people have a lot of things that need space and it's unfair to assume they should either have barely anything to qualify or get rid of things.
@9DMBP7Y2yrs2Y
Get off benefits is the key
@9QBRZFX 10mos10MO
Only if the number of bedrooms greatly outweighs the number of occupants, no disabled people live at the property, there is need for their property by others and a refusal to move to a suitable smaller property
@9Q3MMBDPlaid Cymru10mos10MO
Housing Benefit should be paid direct to the Landlord/Housing Association instead of relying on benefit recipients paying from money received
@9Q34MVC10mos10MO
The council have properties with more rooms than tenants- but are not moving them to other houses when they ask. So the council in my opinion need to do more to make sure houses are suited to those living in it.
@9PVSYZC 10mos10MO
Tenants in social housing should not be in properties with more bedrooms that occupants with the exception of split families where children come to stay.
@9PXBG3510mos10MO
No, people should be allowed a spare bedroom. If they have several spare rooms, they could be asked to downsize.
@9LK6Y631yr1Y
No, depends on duration they have been residents and extended family situation. i.e. grandparents need spare rooms for visiting family, parents of university students retaining the child's room and parents who don't have custody of children but need to make provision for. Disabled people may need spare rooms for overnight carers.
@9L2VYKM1yr1Y
No if they are receiving disabled benefits. Many disabled need spare room but dont need overnight care everynight and are suffering and should not be forced to pay bedroom tax. Especially those suffering mental health who need a spare room for aomeone to stay to support mental breakdown
@9JTN4841yr1Y
Yes, however should actively receive help in the meantime from their housing association or council to downsize to a different property suitable to their needs. Abolish the bedroom tax.
@9FDZHZN2yrs2Y
Currently housing is poorly regulated and such rulrs will harm people's lives.
@9FDMGNQ2yrs2Y
Benefits should be reduced when there are more than 2 spare bedrooms
@8SNQSGX4yrs4Y
No , as I feel this may effect elderly people who lived in there home for most there lives , also may put people into poverty .
@8S9H8FKConservative4yrs4Y
Yes but only if they have been living in that property for under 10 years, any longer then they should automatically be exempt from paying any bedroom tax.
@8N84KDDLibertarian4yrs4Y
They shouldn’t receive benefits.
@9BR54VJ2yrs2Y
It's more subtle than that
@9BP7V8J2yrs2Y
No, Just because it's a "bedroom", doesn't mean the rooms primary focus is for sleeping, it could be used as an office room or recreation room.
@9BP77BQ2yrs2Y
No, but they should be encouraged to move to a smaller home in the same area when one becomes available
@95WS7523yrs3Y
Such tenants should be relocated at public expense if the property is required for larger families etc; only if such tenants refuse to move or if there are disabled family members present, should any exemptions be given.
@93RMBW33yrs3Y
Yes, but lower how much they lose
@8VZYT484yrs4Y
It depends on individual circumstances
Things would currently stay as they are, unless a petition was successful in getting a vote via Liquid Democracy.
Only if they earn above the average wage and do not fit into exceptions like students, larger families and the disabled.
@8TVJN9V4yrs4Y
No, these are peoples homes. They should be offered the chance to move to a smaller property and schemes should be set up to find appropriate swaps but they shouldn't lose benefits
If already in a property and the household number reduces allow for a least one additional room for guests. Why should a person on benefits be penalised because of their changed circumstances?
@8TF2RZH4yrs4Y
Yes, but they should be able to rent extra rooms tax-free
@8TBB2LY4yrs4Y
no unless house was chosen to be large
@8SWTSYQ4yrs4Y
I think that disabled people and the elderly should have benefits in both housing associations and council housing.
@8SPLX5V4yrs4Y
no, as long as you only have one spare room for guest or kids coming back
@8SNPYSB4yrs4Y
Abolish landlords, including the state.
@8SLXW434yrs4Y
Yes. They should move to a smaller property
@8SLVRS24yrs4Y
Policy does not encourage what it was set out to encourage ie people living in the right size of property for their household as their is not the availability of the right size of properties in the areas required thus encouraging movement to right sized properties
They should be relocated to make use of limited resources better.
Only if they refuse to smaller satisfactory housing
Yes, based on whether or not they reach a particular income threshold; those in council housing with excess rooms, for example, would not be penalised - only those who own property with spare rooms
Effectively, yes but only to those who own property, never those who rent. By extension, those who own property should be charged for failing to let rooms, as this would aid in the provision of affordable housing
@8S4BRBV4yrs4Y
There should be no benefits
@8RR7G274yrs4Y
No, people living in homes with more bedrooms than occupants are already subject to a deduction from benefits based on empty rooms
@8RK2DQM4yrs4Y
maybe , but on a case by case basis only. Rules on bedrooms are currently too strict
@8RFHMGL4yrs4Y
Yes, but with exception for those with disabled family members and only if they’re refuse to move to an available smaller property
@8R76YVF4yrs4Y
No benefits system,get rid of it.If they can't afford it let them sleep in the streets and bushes.If not get a job and start paying rent.
Yes, I would decrease the amount of benefits paid if there were more rooms than occupants in the household.
@8Q99R494yrs4Y
Only for new claimants but there are not enough properties regardless of occupancy. No-one should be forced to move or have to relocat to another local authority.
@8Q3QLGX4yrs4Y
They should be rehoused to suit their needs
people should not be penalised by being forced to move from their homes they have looked after and perhaps brought up a family when family circumstances change through no fault of their own. But people should be respectfully asked to seriously consider a change in housing if it would benefit another family or group of people. And the personal benefits of moving should be emphasised.
@8PWD7TV4yrs4Y
No, but reform social housing to ensure that there are houses for families that need the extra space.
Tenants with larger properties than they need should be encouraged to downsize, but not punished for not wanting to move.
@8PPYTM54yrs4Y
Yes, but provide more smaller housing.
@8PMY8CM4yrs4Y
Yes, but with exceptions for those who have a disabled family member, tenants who are receiving state pensions, diplomats and foreign service workers, members of the armed forces and people who foster children.
@8PBXF7B4yrs4Y
No, Introduce a land value tax to reduce landlordism and incentivise the formation of housing co-ops and collectives
@8P9KYKR4yrs4Y
Yes, but with exception for those with disabled family members, only if they refuse to move to an available smaller property
@8NYN2PY4yrs4Y
Yes, only if they refuse to move to an available smaller property but with exception for those with disabled family members
@8NWQJW24yrs4Y
Yes but only if they refuse to move to an available smaller property and has no impact on their ability to care for a child or disabled family member.
@8K5R6CG5yrs5Y
No, but reform social housing to ensure that there are houses for families that need the extra space .
@8JSPHMC5yrs5Y
No, but in future the local authorities should make better decisions in where they put people. Is it fair to disrupt the lives of people who had little, if any, say in the first instance?
@8JMQSMB5yrs5Y
No, build more council property so it's not as scarce
@8DHY62G5yrs5Y
Local Council should not restrict or limit benefits because the council put those tenants in these properties.
@9BTX993Conservative2yrs2Y
Yes, but with exception to those with disabilities in the household, and with a lower reduction in support
@9866KWG2yrs2Y
Abolish private property
@97YVKHX2yrs2Y
No this is a very punitive policy
@97N838KLiberal Democrat2yrs2Y
I don't have a particular stance on this issue.
@97BCBT92yrs2Y
The value of benefits should vary based on the average cost of living in the area, the size of the house shouldn't matter
@974V27WConservative2yrs2Y
Yes, but with an exception of those with disabled family members and only if tenants refuse to move to a smaller property
@973GPHW2yrs2Y
Neither yes or no - decision to be made on a case by case basis
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